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Posts: 14From: San JoseRegistered: Oct 2002
pfloydn
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Thursday, October 24, 2002 2:32 PM

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Thinking about purchasing a Gray Market 328. The car was picked up in Italy and brought straight into CA. It's been smogged every 2 years since purchase, and was smogged in June of this year.

What sort of hassles (beaurocratic, mechanical, etc) should I be worrying about? I understand that resale value may suffer a bit (though I don't expect it to be too significant). The car comes with two exhausts, the original stock exhaust and one with two massive cats on it that theoretically brings it into CA compliance smog-wise (and has been used for that purpose ever since the car's introduction to the country).

I've read some posts about mechanic reluctance to work on grey cars, why? What's mechanically different besides a lack of smog parafinalia?

Any assistance/direction you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

-Pete


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Posts: 1202Registered: Dec 2001
BillBadurski
FCA Technical Chairman


Saturday, October 26, 2002 6:31 AM

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First, I would contact Dick Merritt at the DOT with your serial number to verify it is on the "approved" list. He's at 202-366-5300, FAX 202-493-2266. If that turns out OK, you're over the main hurdle. If not, run like hell from this car.

I've heard that some dealerships shun working on Euro cars. this may be a commercial decision, or based upon unfamiliarity with the differences, or a reluctance to dabble with the conversion pieces... or probably a combination of all. You will probably have no problem finding independent shops to service these cars.

I don't know the specific differences between the 328's, but suspect they are the DOT items, engine management software, catalytic converters, etc. As for market value, converted cars usually command a lower price, but that is minimized when the EPA/DOT documentation can be supported (see first paragraph).

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Posts: 14From: San JoseRegistered: Oct 2002
pfloydn
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Wednesday, December 11, 2002 8:55 AM

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Thanks so much for your quick reply. I checked the car through Dick and it came up good. I've spent the last month working over my new toy (and my first) and have the engine running smoothly and most of the minor electrical issues that the car came with working (the car had an aftermarket alarm system that was wired into absolutely everything, and pulling it our cleaned almost everything up). Just wanted to thank you, and this whole forum actually. It was the knowlege that I could find technical help here on issues, rather than needing to pay a mechanic, that made me comfortable purchasing my first Ferrari. So far, I'm in love with the car.

-Peter




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Posts: 14From: San JoseRegistered: Oct 2002
pfloydn
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Wednesday, June 02, 2004 11:10 AM

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You don't happen to know if Dick's still at the numbers above - do you? I had another question for him (he'd given me a number to call to work with the BAR folks about getting my car a sticker). But now when I call the number all I get is a machine. I've left messages without getting a call back.






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Posts: 1202Registered: Dec 2001
BillBadurski
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Thursday, June 03, 2004 9:42 AM

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Sorry but I do not. If you should find a new number is used, please advise.

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Posts: 14From: San JoseRegistered: Oct 2002
pfloydn
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Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:41 AM

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That number is good. Though he no longer has insight into the BAR approval process and associated records (which is what I needed). So unfortunately, I have records showing a valid import, DOT safety upgrades, etc - but no BAR records because those haven't been computerized and have been lost.... grumble...

-Pete




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